tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post3347489230957834905..comments2023-10-30T09:03:07.163-07:00Comments on California High Speed Rail Blog: Two Very Different Op-EdsRobert Cruickshankhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06906581839066570472noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-54946740819312669862009-10-24T19:01:12.901-07:002009-10-24T19:01:12.901-07:00Jim is one of those types, that believe the more y...Jim is one of those types, that believe the more you write, the more people will believe you, regardless of content.<br /><br />In this thread, no 66 cmments, he posted 16, about 25% of the total.<br /><br />Enough already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-12433207926174531602009-10-23T23:41:17.273-07:002009-10-23T23:41:17.273-07:00Build HSR ..any more stupis "I" was born...Build HSR ..any more stupis "I" was born in 1982 questionsNODUHSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-87426841480833906302009-10-23T22:04:41.301-07:002009-10-23T22:04:41.301-07:00Wow! I had no idea. I can't believe I traveled...Wow! I had no idea. I can't believe I traveled with guy for two months and never knew this about him. Once again, identity has foiled me. The world and people aren't always as they seem. Who would have thought, still learning even after getting off the ship. Oh Sen, what would I do without you?green teahttp://www.vitabits.co.uk/antioxidantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-14277889638458204712009-10-23T05:20:56.789-07:002009-10-23T05:20:56.789-07:00Now top companies are hiring jobs in Pune. Quickl...Now top companies are hiring <a href="http://www.usjobcareer.com" rel="nofollow">jobs in Pune</a>. Quickly post your resume and get your higher postion job.vishnuprasathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475240953210352406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-88747658132388202022009-10-22T22:22:51.784-07:002009-10-22T22:22:51.784-07:00These people also fail to see that there will be R...These people also fail to see that there will be Rent-a-car outlets just like an airport!!YESonHSRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-37858366017847187792009-10-22T21:12:46.085-07:002009-10-22T21:12:46.085-07:00This argument that people won't take the train...This argument that people won't take the train because it doesn't go where they need to is asine. The same logic could be used against airports.<br /><br />The plane doesn't go where you need to. Who's gonna use these planes unless you live or work at the airport!?!<br /><br />Get real, that is a lame argument. People find ways to get to and from airports and they would do the same thing with train stations.Travis NDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01034497512063308638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-88290364981379171012009-10-22T18:45:32.427-07:002009-10-22T18:45:32.427-07:00Dan Walters is a Reaganite freeway booster who got...Dan Walters is a Reaganite freeway booster who got lucky with an easy pan of a boondoggled hsr.<br /><br />More interestingly I wonder if the new owners of Bechtel has done a quiet review of the 99-Palmdale scheme. I mean who would want their rep sullied with another Big Dig? Maybe they will just back off discretely. I doubt they would have the chutzpah to critique the holy scripture that is Prop 1A.<br /><br />On the other hand they could follow their predecessor and take the money and run. They could always blame the fiasco on crooked LA politicians. Pick the better Hollywood rationale: "Ve was chust following orders!" -or- "Ït's Chinatown, Jake."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-25961170629080970382009-10-22T14:46:34.639-07:002009-10-22T14:46:34.639-07:00I'll be going either Davis-Sacramento (which m...I'll be going either Davis-Sacramento (which may be worth driving), as UOP isn't that close to Amtrak, or Davis-San Jose, and take VTA to get to SCU.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326948451529910432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-17761271215238909432009-10-22T14:31:12.263-07:002009-10-22T14:31:12.263-07:00of course beware, because according to anon, you ...of course beware, because according to anon, you won't be able to get to the train and if you do, it isn't going to take you where you want to go ( the train will go rogue and take you someplace you didn't anticipate and when you get to the unwanted place, you'll be trapped there in limbo for all eternity) so just watch out for that aspect of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-69611184977887009722009-10-22T14:28:19.843-07:002009-10-22T14:28:19.843-07:00okay well keep in mind that the 10 rides, are not...okay well keep in mind that the 10 rides, are not subject to additional discounts. they are already nearly 40 percent off. you can use your student advantage for single tickets only and don't forget about the 3 day advance purchase requirement.<br /><br />a 10r sac-sf is 161 (16 bucks each way) I doubt you could drive, pay bridge toll and park for that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-85454921716891357692009-10-22T14:25:37.043-07:002009-10-22T14:25:37.043-07:00@ jim
Definitely. I've already worked out tha...@ jim<br /><br />Definitely. I've already worked out that if I commute twice a week, the 10 ride pass is the cheapest way for me to go. Plus, I'll be using the StudentAdvantage card.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326948451529910432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-44738003570970505032009-10-22T14:23:41.792-07:002009-10-22T14:23:41.792-07:00@peter
be sure to get a monthly or a 10 ride and ...@peter<br /><br />be sure to get a monthly or a 10 ride and save big bucks!<br /><br />anon: see where people live in cali and how we connect them <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?client=safari&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Fresno,+CA&gl=us&ei=YsngSo_WAYvYM__bxcMI&ved=0CA4Q8gEwAA&hl=en&msa=0&ll=37.046409,-120.794678&spn=7.030605,13.919678&t=h&z=7&msid=106369591048698553426.0004768c7a81f5c240424" rel="nofollow">together</a><br /><br />(rafael never likes my maps-ha! shouldn't have told me how to do them ;-) )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-59250784411103662022009-10-22T14:20:12.403-07:002009-10-22T14:20:12.403-07:00I may end up commuting via Capitol Corridor starti...I may end up commuting via Capitol Corridor starting next fall. Even at the relatively "slow" speed at which it travels, it will still definitely be worth it for me to take the train rather than drive.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326948451529910432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-26912454572162900662009-10-22T14:13:45.945-07:002009-10-22T14:13:45.945-07:00I use the Capitol Corridor all the time when I tra...I use the Capitol Corridor all the time when I travel to Sacramento (which is often). It has a strong ridership that will only grow once the economy recovers, once there are capacity and track improvements, and once WiFi is rolled out, which will likely happen in 2010.Robert Cruickshankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06906581839066570472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-69523402094372435822009-10-22T14:05:42.024-07:002009-10-22T14:05:42.024-07:00@Bianca
don't present facts to anon. It scar...@Bianca<br /><br />don't present facts to anon. It scares him away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-456011076655931592009-10-22T13:34:10.584-07:002009-10-22T13:34:10.584-07:00Every time I've gone to Sacramento for a day t...Every time I've gone to Sacramento for a day trip I've taken the Capitol Corridor. And once there I've just walked to whatever my destination was in downtown Sacramento. It's really not that far. It's much better than driving because then I can read or nap or whatever on the train.<br /><br />I don't think that anyone expects a meaningful number of daily commuters on California HSR. But Jim's article does put paid to the fearmongering contention that HSR is going to destroy property values on the Peninsula. It won't. <br /><br />The scenario I can imagine is someone who telecommutes most of the time but has to go into the office a few days a month. For those folks, taking HSR might well seem like a good alternative to driving.Biancahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00660718116529125977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-41894688320816473332009-10-22T13:32:00.423-07:002009-10-22T13:32:00.423-07:00Its not sprawl unless we keep building traditiona...Its not sprawl unless we keep building traditional suburbs which we are doing with or without HSR. Thats a separate issue.<br />What HSR will do is encourage more close in development.<br /><br />There will be another 20 milllion people coming to cali in the next 20-30 years.<br /><br />They need to live somewhere.<br /> You can't put them all in downtown san francisco and downtown LA.<br />Thats not where they want to live.<br />HSR will do two things, even out the population and even out the job opportunities.<br /><br />As much as it will allow for people to live in fresno and work in the bay, it will also allow companies to locate in fresno and offer jobs there while drawing on talent from all over.<br /><br />Not only that, most of the places that hsr will serve are in desperate need of economic growth and its not for you to deny that to them.<br /><br />Those people need options and you don't have the right to take those options away from themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-1412960641651182902009-10-22T13:25:49.782-07:002009-10-22T13:25:49.782-07:00anon you will never win this argument because you ...anon you will never win this argument because you are wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-30464485507664504152009-10-22T13:25:19.475-07:002009-10-22T13:25:19.475-07:00No Jim, the article states that places that were n...No Jim, the article states that places that were not previously commutable, are now commutable. And that means sprawl. Yes, they can now sell their houses, because people can live farther and farther away from city centers, away from places of work. Jim, that's sprawl and that's environmentally bad.<br /><br />Big development backing HSR proponents are trying to hijack 'save the environment' cause as their big selling point, when what HSR is really all about is making it alot easier and more attractive for people to spread out into farther and farther reaches - places where property values didn't hold organically (because not enough water, or too far away from resources, too far away from employment centers, etc) Jim, you're either one of them or they've got the hood so far down over your head, that you don't recognize reality. Its SPRAWL. Its BAD for the environment. We should not be encouraging and enabling SPRAWL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-16847603421823246022009-10-22T13:25:13.812-07:002009-10-22T13:25:13.812-07:00Anon,
my boarding in sf riding to fresno and taki...Anon,<br /><br />my boarding in sf riding to fresno and taking a cab or bus from there = less car use than my renting a car and driving to fresno and then around fresno.<br /><br />people driving a few miles and parking in long term parking at fresno station taking a trip to disneyland with the kids on a family package and back, means a reduction of several hundred miles of suv travel on roads.<br /><br />And cutting down on car travel is not the only reason for hsr.<br /><br />the point is that there are several benefits and combined, they make a difference.<br /><br />If all the current train riders in california, stopped taking the train, and started driving instead, would it or would it not create more car use?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-53014278472113513662009-10-22T13:24:09.829-07:002009-10-22T13:24:09.829-07:00No, the argument is that HSR will reduce FUTURE ne...No, the argument is that HSR will reduce FUTURE need to build more roads and more cars.<br /><br />We won't be tearing up our existing freeways. We're simply reducing the need to build further ones.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326948451529910432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-81847436712015042252009-10-22T13:13:31.161-07:002009-10-22T13:13:31.161-07:00Right you are Jim. They get in cars. That's...Right you are Jim. They get in cars. That's the point. <br /><br />Trains don't take people where they need to go - so cars, and roads, aren't going anywhere. HSR isn't helping solve the car or the 'too many roads' problem. We still need to maintain roads, and we still incur the cost and all that environmental impact. <br /><br />Jim, the argument here is that HSR benefits the environemnt by replacing the need for roads and cars. Its BS. <br /><br />Surprise Surprise Surprise...<br />http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20091022/sc_livescience/whyextremistviewsdominate;_ylt=AtVYzlD5gR0Soo6Sn.jcFFus0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNscG1yZTRqBGFzc2V0A2xpdmVzY2llbmNlLzIwMDkxMDIyL3doeWV4dHJlbWlzdHZpZXdzZG9taW5hdGUEY3BvcwMxMARwb3MDNwRwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA3NlbGYtZmVlZGluZw--Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-63932212426489132172009-10-22T13:10:17.676-07:002009-10-22T13:10:17.676-07:00Sac Valley Station is actually a key node in the r...Sac Valley Station is actually a key node in the rail link between the Bay Area and the state capitol. Now that RT light rail trains stop immediately adjacent to the Amtrak platforms it's very easy for someone to hop on board an LRT vehicle and head to the Capitol or environs for a meeting, etc.<br /><br />(although it would be nice if LRT went closer to the convention center)Robert Cruickshankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06906581839066570472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-65126004221624177432009-10-22T13:04:00.242-07:002009-10-22T13:04:00.242-07:00anooooooo ooonnn hellooooooooo ??????
see this &qu...anooooooo ooonnn hellooooooooo ??????<br />see this "sacramento valley station is the 7th busiest in the nation" (in the top 1- with New York's Penn Station, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angeles, Boston and <br />Sacramento)<br /><br />What on god's green earth do all those people do when they get to Sacramento? I guess there are millions of passengers just roaming around the parking lot lost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-49174007262994854442009-10-22T13:02:41.375-07:002009-10-22T13:02:41.375-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com