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As we get closer to election time, there will be many more editorials like this -- not just in Sacramento, but also in the East Bay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-91873767064912126402008-04-03T12:50:00.000-07:002008-04-03T12:50:00.000-07:00Hi Robert,Nice yo have come across your blog. I ma...Hi Robert,<BR/>Nice yo have come across your blog. I may post comments from time to time if I have something to add.<BR/><BR/>Concerning your initial post about "peak oil". Most people or organizations who banter about whether it makes sense to build the train don't ever get into this discussion. A very big part of whether it makes sense to build it centers around what the alternatives cost, the alternatives being to increase the capacity of the airports or increase the capacity of the highways.<BR/><BR/>If people are going to either drive or fly, then they are going to be using oil, barring a switch to an alternative fuel system in the next 20 years. Peak oil comes into play because as the supply of oil starts decreasing, the cost starts increasing. While the recent price increases may or may not be attributable to speculators, the basic concepts of supply and demand win out in the end, and we will see *much* higher oil prices in the future. The more cars they build and drive in China and India will dictate the upward slope of the oil cost curve.<BR/><BR/>While it is virtually guaranteed that the price of oil will be increasing in the future, the exact opposite holds true for electricity provided by renewable energy. The cost of power from wind and solar, while currently more than conventional sources, is decreasing over time. So, to effectively compare the cost of a 1) train ticket, 2) airplane ticket or 3) two tanks of gas 20 years in the future is a pretty big WAG no matter who you are. For example, if you had said 3 years ago that oil would be $100 per barrel when it was then $20, you would have been laughed out of the room. Same thing if I said that in 20 years oil would be $500 per barrel. Point is, nobody knows for sure.<BR/><BR/>It's a question of whether you want to be making a long term (i.e. 30 years) bet that the price of oil will flatten out and not keep increasing, or do you want to bet that renewable energy will be cheap enough by then to *massively* shift the equation in favor of the trains versus planes/cars.<BR/><BR/>To those that say that $40 billion is too expensive, and that the system might end up costing $100 billion I would pose the following question back... First, tell us how much it is going to cost to expand the airports and highways to handle the same capacity, then tell us how much it is going to cost to operate those systems when oil costs it's current $100 per barrel, $200 per barrel, and finally $500 per barrel. I have not done the calculation but it would be interesting to see the result.<BR/><BR/>Assumptions drive the outcome. While things like the cost to expand airports, build highways, and even build trains are quite a bit easier to predict because they have all been done before, predicting the cost of a dwindling resource 20-30 years into the future is not something that you want to make a big bet on. If you build the train and power it with wind and solar power, you are guaranteed that the operational cost to run the train will *never* increase due to energy costs. Of course this assumes long term contracts and even perhaps dedicated power plants, but people building wind and solar projects are very happy to sign long term contracts. Try to find a natural gas power plant to sign a fixed cost 20 year supply agreement...<BR/><BR/>RobertRubber Toehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15723504969375352982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-13770343671495788932008-04-01T20:22:00.000-07:002008-04-01T20:22:00.000-07:00Robert,I hope you sent a letter/email to that effe...Robert,<BR/><BR/>I hope you sent a letter/email to that effect to the Bee. <BR/>Commentators have a tendency to live in an argument-based world not in a fact-based one. A hazard of their profession.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-45708262364386326682008-04-01T20:07:00.000-07:002008-04-01T20:07:00.000-07:00Hey, anonymous, play nice. martin engel is wrong b...Hey, anonymous, play nice. martin engel is wrong but we're not going to tolerate personal attacks here.<BR/><BR/>nicolasm and miketeevee have given good responses to martin's claims. I would just add a few things:<BR/><BR/>1. The overall cost of HSR must be placed in context. Air travel is going to become more expensive - the era of cheap tickets is coming to an end. Inflation means the price will be higher than $55 in 2018, yes, but it will likely be far more affordable than driving and flying.<BR/><BR/>2. Most of martin's comment is merely his own assertions, either not backed by evidence or flying in the face of evidence. A few days back I posted the recent stats from the Northeast Corridor, where the Acela trains now have 41% of the overall market share. That ought to put to bed any notion that it won't attract numerous passengers.<BR/><BR/>3. The beauty of HSR is that it serves both commuters AND long-distance travelers. Both have a need for high speed service, and HSR would provide this with a mix of express and local trains.<BR/><BR/>Note: there will be no April 1 post here, owing to my coming down with this nasty flu bug.Robert Cruickshankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06906581839066570472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-72153807365765791182008-04-01T18:07:00.000-07:002008-04-01T18:07:00.000-07:00Hey Martin, How about the $450 billion the federal...Hey Martin, How about the $450 billion the federal government spent on the interstate system between 1960 and 1993. WITHOUT GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES THERE WOULD BE NOWHERE TO DRIVE YOUR CAR!!! <BR/><BR/>I'm calling you out Martin you NIMBY douche-bag. YOU WANT TO CRIPPLE THE STATE JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVE NEXT TO THE TRACKS!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-37626154629645945022008-04-01T15:41:00.000-07:002008-04-01T15:41:00.000-07:00Ticket prices. Let's at least make sure we're com...Ticket prices. Let's at least make sure we're comparing apples to apples.<BR/><BR/>I went to southwest.com and priced flights from San Jose to Burbank on April 25-27. Let's say the plan is to go down Friday night and come back Sunday night.<BR/><BR/>Both directions, I can get a $39 flight in the morning but afternoon-evening is $67 to $96.<BR/><BR/>In real life, I've never been able to use those super-cheap fares to travel on my schedule. They're either sold out or not at the times I want to go.<BR/><BR/>$55 (in today's dollars) is near the low end of what Southwest is charging, and probably lower than what most people end up paying.<BR/><BR/>And we haven't even added the airport "facility fees" yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-90083219324037818342008-04-01T13:14:00.000-07:002008-04-01T13:14:00.000-07:00Wow Martin. Will it cost $55 in 20 years? Due to i...Wow Martin. Will it cost $55 in 20 years? Due to inflation, probably not. Will it be the equivalent of $55 today? Far more likely. Will any plane that flies using jet fuel be able to compete at that price? Unless new sources of oil are found to drop the prices back to the golden age for consumers in the late 80's and 90's, I highly, highly doubt it. Your hatred of trains is a shame. They are the solution to keeping mobility in the future when gas will become cumbersomely expensive. Spend money now or spend oodles more in the future. I also love your faster than flying comment. Sure, the flight will be quicker, but that leaves out so much more of that journey. You are supposed to arrive an hour and a half before your flight and unless you live right next to the airport you will also need to account for that. Then you have to deal with the hassle of the metal detectors. Then you need to wait for checked luggage if you have any, account for what will likely be plenty of air traffic delays, etc. Hopefully you get the point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-61799427896783902502008-04-01T11:10:00.000-07:002008-04-01T11:10:00.000-07:00martin engelDo the airlines or Auto Industry pay y...martin engel<BR/>Do the airlines or Auto Industry pay you? Or are you just Mentally Ill? You have no discussion since your points are NO just because you say so and nothing more! Denial is what you seem to be spreading! Well I say your wrong and this project will get funded so get out of this and all 1,000 + blogs, threads and any other websites relating to Rail & HSR just spreading dumbness like a disease!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-5024163107846314372008-04-01T08:44:00.000-07:002008-04-01T08:44:00.000-07:00Hi, Robert. As we move into the summer bond measu...Hi, Robert. As we move into the summer bond measure lobbying season, we may find more people saying no to this train, all your energetic support to the contrary notwithstanding. <BR/><BR/>• No, the tickets from SF to LA won't be $55 in ten years.<BR/>• No, there will not be 117,000,000 million passengers per year.<BR/>• No, there will not be annual revenue of $3 billion and profits of $1 billion.<BR/>• No, the train will not take huge numbers of cars off any road, including I –5<BR/>• No, it won't be faster than flying. <BR/>• No, it won't be environmentally better in 10 years. <BR/>• No, the $9.95 billion will not be enough from taxpayers; we will be "hit" on for much, much more.<BR/>• No, the total costs will not be $40 or even $50 billion; it will be more like $100 billion or more by the time of completion.<BR/><BR/>I shall ask you, today, one question only: How much money do you believe would be too much to spend on this project, $40 billion, $80 billion, $100 billion; that is, is there any upper limit in your mind that would be excessive?Martin Engelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10945359524195169103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-37368671711304076792008-04-01T00:48:00.000-07:002008-04-01T00:48:00.000-07:00He must be blind to not see the congestion on I-5 ...He must be blind to not see the congestion on I-5 in parts where their are no city's in the middle of nowhere! I-15 is also a good example, and I-580 is horrible daily even at times (Hours) on the weekend! This project is initially serving long distance travelers, and buisness people from L.A to S.F, but hopefully once it's built it will also be of great use to commuters both in L.A and the Bay Area! Maybe the Altamont alignment will help people in the valley get to their jobs into the Bay Area and aleviate some traffic from I-580 since it is a major artery into the East Bay!luis d.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04825999683258862540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-88083493225815159462008-03-31T23:42:00.000-07:002008-03-31T23:42:00.000-07:00Looks like he is out of touch with Californians if...Looks like he is out of touch with Californians if he doesn't know I-5 gets crowded all the time. I drive down to visit my sister a few times a year and its ridiculous.Pantograph Trolleypolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17833159138533550544noreply@blogger.com