tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post3123654891215433915..comments2023-10-30T09:03:07.163-07:00Comments on California High Speed Rail Blog: InvestmentRobert Cruickshankhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06906581839066570472noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-47527295063065759782008-10-26T21:55:00.000-07:002008-10-26T21:55:00.000-07:00morris...stop with the stupid links them to your n...morris...stop with the stupid links them to your nimby city mayors office...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-62693922172017644592008-10-26T21:45:00.001-07:002008-10-26T21:45:00.001-07:00High speed rail construction is a lot of bulldozer...High speed rail construction is a lot of bulldozers, carpenters to build the forms for the concrete for bridges and overpasses, 1,600 miles of fence, equipment buildings (for signal and communications equipment) and then rail laying and digging a lot of holes for the foundations for the catenary poles, stringing the wires, building stations.....<BR/><BR/>Most all is general construction and can utilize folks who build houses or graded subdivisions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-45588146004484722562008-10-26T21:45:00.000-07:002008-10-26T21:45:00.000-07:00well spoker old men like choo choosnot 200mph HST ...well spoker old men like choo choos<BR/>not 200mph HST most railfans are old white mccain types..like your dad...tell him to yote yes on 1a or you will slit his throat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-58411471773215621402008-10-26T18:39:00.000-07:002008-10-26T18:39:00.000-07:00I have a question.I was listening to the radio and...I have a question.<BR/><BR/>I was listening to the radio and they said that one of the hardest hit job sectors was construction due to the housing crisis.<BR/><BR/>Now when these construction jobs are created by high speed rail, who gets those jobs? <BR/><BR/>Let's say a guy was building houses and suddenly finds himself out of work. Could he apply and be hired to work on the high speed line? What are these, general contractors or something?<BR/><BR/>Maybe someone who is familiar with these things can fill us in on the details.Spokkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03244298044953214810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-87150651880170523372008-10-26T18:14:00.000-07:002008-10-26T18:14:00.000-07:00My daddy says Prop 1A is a bad idea. He is super-d...My daddy says Prop 1A is a bad idea. He is super-duper into trains. He even made love to a train. But this train is not very attractive to my daddy, and therefore you should vote NO on Prop 1A!Spokkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03244298044953214810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-79137905913047393352008-10-26T18:05:00.000-07:002008-10-26T18:05:00.000-07:00anon, ANYONE can post a diary at Daily Kos. Even y...anon, ANYONE can post a diary at Daily Kos. Even you. The comments were uniformly critical of the arguments and supportive of Prop 1A. Your attempt to stir the pot has failed miserably.Robert Cruickshankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06906581839066570472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-84738396794162527902008-10-26T17:31:00.000-07:002008-10-26T17:31:00.000-07:00@bossyman15considering the publication, I would ce...@bossyman15<BR/><BR/>considering the publication, I would certainly expect those kind of comments. It isn't the comments that I am referring to, but rather that this publication would publish the article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-1043531497342896662008-10-26T16:11:00.000-07:002008-10-26T16:11:00.000-07:00@ rafaelHere is a link to a full document that Jos...@ rafael<BR/><BR/>Here is a <A HREF="http://www.derailhsr.com/page/vranich1023.pdf" REL="nofollow">link</A> to a full document that Joseph Vranich submitted to the T&H committee. It has some graphs and other quantitative data. In particular you might be interested in the ridership projections, especially noting that both Berkeley and FRA came in with much lower numbers then have been projected by the CHSRA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-80228842653157357662008-10-26T15:54:00.000-07:002008-10-26T15:54:00.000-07:00@ Anonymous...did you check the comments on Daily ...@ Anonymous...<BR/><BR/>did you check the comments on Daily Koss article? <BR/><BR/>nearly all of them support prop 1A!<BR/><BR/>You Fail.... HARD.bossyman15https://www.blogger.com/profile/04434928402545599443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-28329430176531961662008-10-26T15:37:00.000-07:002008-10-26T15:37:00.000-07:00@ Brandon in San Diegoyou can go to your local car...@ Brandon in San Diego<BR/><BR/>you can go to your local car store and ask for special marker that you can write on the windows.bossyman15https://www.blogger.com/profile/04434928402545599443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-78481668916826947882008-10-26T15:23:00.000-07:002008-10-26T15:23:00.000-07:00@Robert The Daily Koss, which I understand is a p...@Robert<BR/><BR/> The Daily Koss, which I understand is a publication you favor, has this <A HREF="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/26/1634/7233/888/642883." REL="nofollow">article</A> today.<BR/><BR/> Quoting from this article from the daughter of James Mills: <BR/><BR/> I am passing on an analysis of California's Prop 1A ballot initiative from one of the leading experts and advocates of mass transit in the state of California, James Mills.<BR/><BR/>Mills' daughter writes:<BR/><BR/>I'd like to suggest you vote "No" on Proposition 1A, the "Safe Reliable High-Speed Passenger Train Bond Act," on the basis of the following insider, expert information: my dad says it's a bad idea.<BR/><BR/>My father, James Mills, spent his entire career in the California state legislature (1961-1983) working to promote public transportation in the state. He was President pro Tem of the Senate for a decade. He was chairman of the Amtrak board under president Carter. Since retiring he has worked as a consultant on transit issues, and in the 1990's he served on the High Speed Rail Commission for the State of California . My dad is hard-core in favor of rail. If he says a proposal to fund a rail project is no good, then that proposal has to be a real turkey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-62667000982191118772008-10-26T11:55:00.000-07:002008-10-26T11:55:00.000-07:00Great job bossman! I see you also got the same bu...Great job bossman! I see you also got the same bumper sticker (but not a sticker) from Cafe Press! I did too and it's in my rear windoww. <BR/><BR/>I feel inspired; maybe I'll hit the crafts sore and get some waterbased paint today?Brandon in Californiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14796810137823230737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-10327092344702346362008-10-26T10:55:00.000-07:002008-10-26T10:55:00.000-07:00Thats a great idea! free prop 1A ads!! and on the ...Thats a great idea! free prop 1A ads!! and on the freeways..YESON1A should have thought of that and drove it around Orange and SanDiego<BR/>counties. That is where the real effort should have went.OrangeCo has so much to gain..I cant believe<BR/>that silly OCregister came out against Prop1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-72819664092148732902008-10-26T10:27:00.000-07:002008-10-26T10:27:00.000-07:00heh that's my newspaper! :)anyway take a look at w...heh that's my newspaper! :)<BR/><BR/>anyway take a look at what i did with my car.<BR/><BR/>http://i38.tinypic.com/x6htgy.jpg<BR/><BR/>You all should do same thing. <BR/>Spread the word!bossyman15https://www.blogger.com/profile/04434928402545599443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-40121098803413918542008-10-26T08:41:00.000-07:002008-10-26T08:41:00.000-07:00Nothing has morphed except emphasis. In the spring...Nothing has morphed except emphasis. In the spring of 2008 there seemed to be more focus on environmentalism and sustainability around the state, so that's what I emphasized. By summer gas prices had come to dominate and so that's what I emphasized. Here in the fall the economy is at the forefront of voters' minds so that's now what we're emphasizing.<BR/><BR/>Prop 1A <B>always</B> dealt with all of those things. But it never makes sense to talk about the myriad benefits of HSR at once. Gotta emphasize one thing at a time. If I woke up tomorrow to discover voters were primarily thinking about renewable energy I'd write more about that.Robert Cruickshankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06906581839066570472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-27442068797277031762008-10-26T06:55:00.000-07:002008-10-26T06:55:00.000-07:00Well it sure is going to create jobs!! not just so...Well it sure is going to create jobs!! not just some 700billion for failed private business.And over the years it will let our state grow and have the system neeed to create more even more jobs and travel. What has any group opposing this proposed to answer these needs?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-36966766205454438372008-10-26T05:52:00.000-07:002008-10-26T05:52:00.000-07:00Proponents of Prop 1A such as Robert, have now mor...Proponents of Prop 1A such as Robert, have now morphed this into a jobs creation bond. <BR/><BR/><BR/>In an <A HREF="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/25/BANV13NUPR.DTL&hw=high+speed+rail&sn=002&sc=985" REL="nofollow"> ARTICLE</A> from the SF Chronicle we read:<BR/><B><BR/>Nearly all of the campaign contributions have come from engineering and construction companies or organized labor groups that could benefit financially if the state moves ahead with plans to build an 800-mile statewide high-speed train system. More than $1.5 million poured in during the past three weeks. </B><BR/><BR/>such is the way of the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-4664474638384208102008-10-26T03:11:00.000-07:002008-10-26T03:11:00.000-07:00I wonder where that $6.9 - $8.9 billion figure cam...I wonder where that $6.9 - $8.9 billion figure came from. That's more than CHSRA intends to spend on the Bay Area section of the starter line. Perhaps Mr. Randolph is including the expected induced private investment in real estate near the proposed stations in SF, SJ and along the peninsula.<BR/><BR/>As for reducing time (= money) wasted in traffic, that only applies if commuters actually switch to HSR <I>and</I> the trains offer reliable broadband internet access so they can be productive in transit.<BR/><BR/>The experience in e.g. France suggests that HSR will prompt some commuters to move far from their place of work. However, in all fairness, the choice of Pacheco Pass means that HSR will do little to alleviate traffic on the 880, 580/205 and 680 freeways in the Bay Area.Rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05471957286484454765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4263762637946594105.post-78078152932805247192008-10-25T23:46:00.000-07:002008-10-25T23:46:00.000-07:00On Sunday Morning--10/26/08 -- KCBS 740 am is doi...On Sunday Morning--10/26/08 -- KCBS 740 am is doing a show on Prop 1A. Kopp will be there. Mike Brady, president of DERAIL will be on the con side of the debate.<BR/><BR/>The program airs at 8:30 AM and is repeated at 8:30 PM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com